Thursday, March 08, 2007

SUBWAY (again)

hello there anonymous.i have been told to correct your statements which are untrue.so here it goes:
the mayonnaise is not claiming to be low fat (only sweet chili, honey mustard, bbq, and sweet onion are)it may have once been (a long time ago) but since then we have changed the recipe and therefore also the status of :low fat.
the bread is taken out at 8 pm the previous night, the next morning at 7 am it rolled separately in the oats or seasonings and then again risen for another 30 minutes. we then top the italian herbs with cheese and straight away bake it. SO by the time it is baked it has been rising for at least 12 hours.
and lastly there is a minimum amount of space that each subway franchise must be away from each other (sorry i do not know the exact amount) but in the case of the subways bush inn and riccarton, the riccarton is not a full subway restaurant aka it is attached to the garage therefore that is why they are so close.
and while im here ill answer the other questions:
anonymous jones, no i have never spat in a customers sub as i make it in front of them, and no i wouldn't anyway.

amy, my favourite sauce is ranch even tho it's so fatty! what is your favourite sauce? i bet its italian and also red wine vinag. p.s did u know that subway riccarton charges 90 cents more for the vege patties as we do! so come to us!love u big sister

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow subway wars. Hey i just thought of this Subwars. lame I know. Anyway, humans were born with choice so if you don't like it don't go. If you like the rest of it just not the bread and mayo get a subway salad.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, go claire, WO! WO! WO!
you bring it.
SMile

Anonymous said...

If the mayonnaise is no longer low fat why the hell does it look like 'No More Gaps'. Its against nature.
Yes Beth as you so accurately put it humans are born with choice. No where in any of my posts did I say that I still go to Subway. I have exercised my choice of NOT GOING.
To make accurate choices people need as much information as they can, I am just trying to show you another side to subway. I have a right to express my opinion on the evil soulless giant that is Subway just as you have the right to be brainwashed and manipulated by it.

Mindy said...

In an related but not very related comment. My Granddad used to make fantastic mayonnaise. He put more than egg and oil in it too, I think it had sweetened condensed milk in it, so I was bought up on sweet mayo :)

Anonymous said...

Real mayo rules. I can't understand why subway don't use it. Probably because they are evil and they hate you.
Also their mayo would have a shelf life of about 35 years.

Anonymous said...

Mindy - you must be loving the posts about subway.

I once rode a subway for 3 hours.
However it left crumbs in my bed.

I se Mr Anonymous has some strong views on subway - especially round white sticky substances that are a persistent stain.

Mr A. can you back these up with facts i.e. websites, pamphlets on mayonaise free paper, or tax records from Banana Republics showing the downfall of their tin pot economy that can be linked to the close proximity of competing subway chains.

I look forward to your cold hard facts Mr A. Don't dissapoint me or you may get that hot foot long....

Anonymous said...

Subway has the lowest franchising fee of the major chains and took one the highest percentage of profits. "Dean Sager, a former staff economist for the U.S. House of Representative's Small Business Committee, has called Subway the "worst" franchise in America. "Subway is the biggest problem in franchising," Sager told Fortune magazine in 1998, "and emerges as one of the key examples of every [franchise] above you can think of."" For example, in 1996, 109 new Subways relied on money from the U.S. government's Small Business Administration for financing. It would be nice if multi-million dollar transnational corporations felt they could get by without using tax-payer money earmarked for small businesses.

Anonymous said...

http://www.isaa.fr/Docs/Microsoft_Word__lINK_BETWEEN_THE_FRANCHISE_SYSTEM_AND_US_GOVERNMENT_LOANS.pdf

"During the 1990s, Subway
was involved in more legal disputes with franchisees than any other chain — more than Burger King, KFC,
McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and Wendy's combined."

Many of the complaints about Subway arise from its
unusual system for recruiting new franchisees. The chain relies on "development agents" to sell new Subway
franchises. The development agents are not paid a salary by Subway; they are technically independent
contractors, salesmen whose income is largely dependent on the number of Subways that open in their territory.
They receive half of the franchise fee paid by new recruits, plus one-third of the annual royalties, plus one-third
of the "transfer fee" paid whenever a restaurant is resold. Agents who fail to meet their monthly sales quotas are
sometimes forced to pay the company for their shortfall. They are under constant pressure to keep opening new
Subways, regardless of how that affects the sales of Subways that are already operating nearby. According to a
1995 investigation by Canada's Financial Post, Subway's whole system seems "almost as geared to selling
franchises as it is to selling sandwiches."

Anonymous said...

As the link for my source got cut off, here it is.

http://www.isaa.fr/Docs/
Microsoft_Word__lINK_BETWEEN_THE
_FRANCHISE_
SYSTEM_AND_US_GOVERNMENT_LOANS.pdf

You will have to paste the lines together to get to the PDF.

Anonymous said...

Nice work Mr A. I like facts. Almost as much as I like carpet.

Anonymous said...

http://franchisepundit.com/
index.php/2005/05/

After a Subway franchise is purchased, Subway helps the franchisee to find a site for the Subway shop. If Subway approves the site, it requires each franchisee to sublease the premises from one of several real-estate leasing companies that are affiliated with Subway (red flag!).

In 1990, Defendants opened their first Subway sandwich shop in Granite City, Illinois. Later they bought a second Subway franchise. Subway corporate allegedly promised to approve any appropriate site Defendants found for the second franchise in Bethalto, Illinois. After locating two potential spots in Bethalto, Defendants asked Subway corporate for approval, but were told that both sites were too close to another Subway sandwich shop located in Wood River, Illinois.

Subway corporate then allegedly permitted another franchisee to open a Subway shop in Bethalto, at or near the spots picked by Defendants. Despite Defendants’ objections, Subway corporate made Defendants locate their second Subway store in Granite City, less than two miles from Defendants’ first store. The opening of this second shop cut into the sales of Defendants’ first Granite City shop.

Subway corporate is your landlord. They can dangle an eviction notice in the face of franchisee to compel desired behavior. If Subway had the franchisee’s best interests in mind, that franchisor-landlord relationship could work in theory. Intuitively, you would think that maximizing the franchisee’s profits would maximize Subway’s profit, right? Wrong. (see The hidden ways franchisors make money off franchisees)

Mindy said...

I don't know what I am talking about? I didn't really talk about anything... I definitely was not leading the discussion or the rebuttal. Sometimes I know what I'm talking about sometimes I don't, when I don't I'm open to change :)

Unless it's about the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I respectfully will ignore anything anyone says about them that is negative and remain as biased as I can possibly be. (40 sleeps to go till the concert!)

The comments about subway above make it sound very much like the pyramidish scheme Usana that we recently got approached about. I still don't know if "evil" comes into it. But I take the point.

I just want everyone to be nice to each other on my blog that's all. "The best thing we can possibly do for the world is just be nice to each other."

Anonymous said...

Cool, lets be nice to each other and live in a world where facts don't matter.

Mindy said...

Hmmm was that a scathing sarcastic comment or not?

I can't tell, text only stuff takes away the personal cues I need to figure stuff out! Since I didn't argue with your facts and didn't dispute them...

?

Haha I just realised your comment fits in with my personality type, ENFJ. Being an F I react to things emotionally before I do logically, so I guess in a way I am actually living in a world where the facts don't matter as much as the way I feel about things. I'm trying to be more logical and rational! I think I'd win more fights with Darren that way! ;)

Anonymous said...

ENFJ... interesting - I'm the same.

Although the F bit for me isn't so flash - it means I cry at sad movies and want to talk and stuff.

Anonymous said...

I don't trust those fellas, Myers and Briggs.....


I suspect they ate dodgy Mayo also, it would explain a lot

Anonymous said...

"Mindy said...
Since I didn't argue with your facts and didn't dispute them..."

Excuse me Mindy... I think you did argue with my facts, from the "Subway Play Hard Eat Fresh discussion:

"Mindy said...
Well the fact still remains you got it wrong about the bread and the mayo and the not having limits on the number of restaurants per location. Just think it's important to get the facts correct and out there so everyone can make their own decisions about what to complain about and what to eat :)"

Mindy said...

Haha they weren't facts! But what I meant was once I read all your comments I agreed and did not argue.

How blatantly do I have to agree that their franchising policy seems unfair.

Anonymous said...

On this blog, pretty blatantly.

Mindy said...

I'm really sorry I seem to have offended you so much. Once I had read your facts I didn't continue to dispute them, that's what I meant.

And hey fellow ENFJer, it's a tough road sometimes, bloody Ts so insensitive, they just don't understand ;)

Anonymous said...

You haven't offended me, you are not even close.
For the record I am an INFJ so logic would dictate that we think in a similar way. After this discussion I am beginning to doubt the validity of the Meyers Briggs test.
Not that I ever really had much faith in it.

Mindy said...

Yeah stayed tune for the Myers-Briggs post. That should get some good lively discussion! ;)

Anonymous said...

Muh.

Mindy said...

Well being an E and an F, I worry a lot about how other people feel. So I'll just cover myself and say to everyone thanks so much for visiting my blog, I'm sure we all learned a lot I did... thanks for educating me, and I hope you have fantastic afternoons!

Anonymous said...

I feel like subway for lunch now :-P

Mindy said...

With or without mayo? ;)

El pollo grande del diablo said...

I have decided to give up Anonymous and from now on I shall be known as:

El pollo grande del diablo

El pollo grande del diablo said...

Without the devil mayo thank you very much.

Anonymous said...

Hey Mindy new quiz on my site and also a subway poll, it was the first thing I could think of after reading the war on here.

Clairey Fairy said...

hello everyone after a while of not looking at this blog and now seeing how much of a arguement has broken out, i have concluded that mindy is an innocent little buttercup just trying to get world peace and that mr anonymous aka el pollo grande del diablo should stop writing on silly blogs and looking up large amounts of uninteresting facts and actually do some work at work!
and i just read over that comment from my big brother and realised who it was! hello d brain

El pollo grande del diablo said...

First off, it wasn't an argument, it was a discussion.

If you don't want people to post comments on your blog then don't make it public.

The purpose of a public blog is to have the public read it. Don't get upset when they post comments that you don't agree with.

Great attitude towards the "uninteresting facts" there. Way to put your head in the sand.

Also nice job saying that your sisters blog is "silly".

El pollo grande del diablo said...

also you said yourself "hello there anonymous.i have been told to correct your statements which are untrue."

Untrue Statements..... your words.

Now you say

"large amounts of uninteresting facts"

hmmmm uninteresting facts.... they may be uninteresting but they are, as you so rightly point out facts.

Does this mean you have come around to my way of thinking?